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	<title>Comments on: The Toronto Bed Bug Project &#8211; Medical Officer of Health&#8217;s Report</title>
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		<title>By: Renee Corea</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/11/15/the-toronto-bed-bug-project-medical-officer-of-healths-report/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee Corea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carmela,

You should consult an attorney about your legal obligations.  The obligation to disclose latent defects &lt;em&gt;where you live&lt;/em&gt;, and even whether this would be considered one, is something you need to discuss with an experienced lawyer.  You want to make sure you understand this thoroughly before proceeding.

Ethically, well.  

The only thing that gives me pause is that you mention not &#039;seeing&#039; any since treatment (and how long ago was that?).  As you know, bed bugs may be present below detectable levels, for various reasons.  You may not see live bed bugs, although there will be other signs if they&#039;re present.  And yet observation of the signs may be challenging even for professionals.  Further, bed bug infestations are capable of receding and then reappearing.  Whether some bed bugs hide out only to return or whether small, still active, numbers are not detectable I don&#039;t know, but it happens.

I would suggest that you take every possible step to confirm that the infestation is indeed eradicated, especially if anyone in your home is not or has not previously been allergic to the bites.  Such steps might include thorough inspections by professionals or bed bug dogs and the use of an active monitoring device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carmela,</p>
<p>You should consult an attorney about your legal obligations.  The obligation to disclose latent defects <em>where you live</em>, and even whether this would be considered one, is something you need to discuss with an experienced lawyer.  You want to make sure you understand this thoroughly before proceeding.</p>
<p>Ethically, well.  </p>
<p>The only thing that gives me pause is that you mention not &#8216;seeing&#8217; any since treatment (and how long ago was that?).  As you know, bed bugs may be present below detectable levels, for various reasons.  You may not see live bed bugs, although there will be other signs if they&#8217;re present.  And yet observation of the signs may be challenging even for professionals.  Further, bed bug infestations are capable of receding and then reappearing.  Whether some bed bugs hide out only to return or whether small, still active, numbers are not detectable I don&#8217;t know, but it happens.</p>
<p>I would suggest that you take every possible step to confirm that the infestation is indeed eradicated, especially if anyone in your home is not or has not previously been allergic to the bites.  Such steps might include thorough inspections by professionals or bed bug dogs and the use of an active monitoring device.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmela Petersen</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/11/15/the-toronto-bed-bug-project-medical-officer-of-healths-report/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmela Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can a person ethically sell a townhome, which had bed bugs awhile ago but hasn&#039;t seen any since treatment.  We don&#039;t want to put anyone else through the hell we&#039;ve been through, but this is the perfect time for us to, finally, get into a single family home and start that garden we&#039;ve always wanted.  We&#039;ve treated the heck out of this place and like I said - no bugs for quite some time now.  What to do?  What are our legal obligations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can a person ethically sell a townhome, which had bed bugs awhile ago but hasn&#8217;t seen any since treatment.  We don&#8217;t want to put anyone else through the hell we&#8217;ve been through, but this is the perfect time for us to, finally, get into a single family home and start that garden we&#8217;ve always wanted.  We&#8217;ve treated the heck out of this place and like I said &#8211; no bugs for quite some time now.  What to do?  What are our legal obligations?</p>
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		<title>By: Renee Corea</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/11/15/the-toronto-bed-bug-project-medical-officer-of-healths-report/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee Corea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Susan, you&#039;d be surprised to learn that California has done some policy work on this issue already.   Check out our &lt;a href=&quot;http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/resources/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;resources page&lt;/a&gt;.  You&#039;ll also find everything else to get you started on reading on this.  The Toronto and Cincinnati documents are there.  

We should talk about it more.  I definitely have thoughts to share.  Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Susan, you&#8217;d be surprised to learn that California has done some policy work on this issue already.   Check out our <a href="http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/resources/" rel="nofollow">resources page</a>.  You&#8217;ll also find everything else to get you started on reading on this.  The Toronto and Cincinnati documents are there.  </p>
<p>We should talk about it more.  I definitely have thoughts to share.  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: susan weinberg</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/11/15/the-toronto-bed-bug-project-medical-officer-of-healths-report/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>susan weinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do we get california involved i this way- I live in santa monica and would like to start there - how can I get a copyof the resource manual</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do we get california involved i this way- I live in santa monica and would like to start there &#8211; how can I get a copyof the resource manual</p>
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		<title>By: Toronto Public Health&#8217;s bed bug portal: a closer look — New York vs Bed Bugs</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/11/15/the-toronto-bed-bug-project-medical-officer-of-healths-report/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>Toronto Public Health&#8217;s bed bug portal: a closer look — New York vs Bed Bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The site also has a section about the Toronto Bed Bug Project and we&#8217;ve already discussed how impressed we are—you can read our interview with the co-chair of the Toronto Bed Bug Project [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The site also has a section about the Toronto Bed Bug Project and we&#8217;ve already discussed how impressed we are—you can read our interview with the co-chair of the Toronto Bed Bug Project [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Linkages: a Q&#38;A with Rima Zavys of WoodGreen Community Services and the Toronto Bed Bug Project — New York vs Bed Bugs</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/11/15/the-toronto-bed-bug-project-medical-officer-of-healths-report/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkages: a Q&#38;A with Rima Zavys of WoodGreen Community Services and the Toronto Bed Bug Project — New York vs Bed Bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] our earlier review of the Toronto Bed Bug Project interim report and our look at the genesis of the Toronto Bed Bug Project in the early efforts of the shelter and [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] our earlier review of the Toronto Bed Bug Project interim report and our look at the genesis of the Toronto Bed Bug Project in the early efforts of the shelter and [...] </p>
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		<title>By: WoodGreen&#8217;s Bed Bug Resource Manual &#8212; New York vs Bed Bugs</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/11/15/the-toronto-bed-bug-project-medical-officer-of-healths-report/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>WoodGreen&#8217;s Bed Bug Resource Manual &#8212; New York vs Bed Bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WoodGreen&#8217;s Bed Bug Resource Manual outlines background information on events that preceded the Toronto Bed Bug Project and makes policy recommendations. (We have just reviewed the Toronto Medical Officer of Health&#8217;s Staff Report on the Toronto Bed Bug Project.) [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WoodGreen&#8217;s Bed Bug Resource Manual outlines background information on events that preceded the Toronto Bed Bug Project and makes policy recommendations. (We have just reviewed the Toronto Medical Officer of Health&#8217;s Staff Report on the Toronto Bed Bug Project.) [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Toronto Bed Bug Project Update coming Monday, forecast looking good : Got bed bugs? Bedbugger.com</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/11/15/the-toronto-bed-bug-project-medical-officer-of-healths-report/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>Toronto Bed Bug Project Update coming Monday, forecast looking good : Got bed bugs? Bedbugger.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can read much more about the Toronto Bed Bug Project on New York vs. Bed Bugs, where Renee has laid out a detailed analysis and links to lots more of the juicy [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can read much more about the Toronto Bed Bug Project on New York vs. Bed Bugs, where Renee has laid out a detailed analysis and links to lots more of the juicy [...] </p>
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		<title>By: The prescience (and great bed bug photographs) of Dr. Tim Myles &#8212; New York vs Bed Bugs</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/11/15/the-toronto-bed-bug-project-medical-officer-of-healths-report/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>The prescience (and great bed bug photographs) of Dr. Tim Myles &#8212; New York vs Bed Bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has begun to address the resurgence of bed bugs in an organized way. Naturally, the longer you wait, the harder it is. Anyone who has had bed bugs knows this. They [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has begun to address the resurgence of bed bugs in an organized way. Naturally, the longer you wait, the harder it is. Anyone who has had bed bugs knows this. They [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Renee Corea</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/11/15/the-toronto-bed-bug-project-medical-officer-of-healths-report/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee Corea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;em&gt;Toronto Sun&lt;/em&gt; has a brief story &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2008/11/15/7421586-sun.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;today&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <em>Toronto Sun</em> has a brief story <a href="http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2008/11/15/7421586-sun.html" rel="nofollow">today</a>.</p>
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