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		<title>By: Renee Corea</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2009/01/18/permanent-prophylactic-measures-city-of-plastic-bags/comment-page-1/#comment-42562</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee Corea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi (now I don&#039;t know what to call you!),  

I think that if you are referring to cryonite, then you should be aware that it has no residual action, so bed bugs have to be contacted directly in order to be killed.  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s useful in some types of infestations and/or where people have chemical sensitivities, but because it works on contact and it is evidently expensive, how many services will be done and what other methods will be employed are important questions to iron out with the provider.  

And dogs can be useful if they are handled properly and are good -- in other words, there is great variability in the bed bug dog services that are available in the city and a great number of reported false alerts, so that it is recommended that the dog handler or a pest control professional visually confirm the dog&#039;s alert(s).  In a case where bed bugs are frequently seen and already confirmed, I&#039;m not sure that hiring a dog for an inspection is a good use of limited resources.  All of this said, you should learn more about these options and ask others who have had these methods employed in their homes.  You can do that in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://bedbugger.com/forum/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forums at bedbugger&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi (now I don&#8217;t know what to call you!),  </p>
<p>I think that if you are referring to cryonite, then you should be aware that it has no residual action, so bed bugs have to be contacted directly in order to be killed.  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s useful in some types of infestations and/or where people have chemical sensitivities, but because it works on contact and it is evidently expensive, how many services will be done and what other methods will be employed are important questions to iron out with the provider.  </p>
<p>And dogs can be useful if they are handled properly and are good &#8212; in other words, there is great variability in the bed bug dog services that are available in the city and a great number of reported false alerts, so that it is recommended that the dog handler or a pest control professional visually confirm the dog&#8217;s alert(s).  In a case where bed bugs are frequently seen and already confirmed, I&#8217;m not sure that hiring a dog for an inspection is a good use of limited resources.  All of this said, you should learn more about these options and ask others who have had these methods employed in their homes.  You can do that in the <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/" rel="nofollow">forums at bedbugger</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I do keep articles etc. and read eventually.
A combination of steaming (in my case the less expensive steamer, not the
500$ plus dry steamer) , and td eaton  water based spray seems good. I&#039;ve covered mattresses with plastic, iron blankets often, also use diatomaceous earth powder , murphy&#039;s soap, and alcohol. Every so often i see one so i know they are around but this situation cannot be totally resolved until necessary
work is done patching, painting,  the apartment . 
I will approach the landlord a second time. 
Also, what do you think of the new freezing procedures --on TV a computer
is shown being sprayed. A combination of their bb detecting dog and  their technology, and a 3 month guarantee is $1200? 
Renee , thank you --your advice is very appreciated.
Gratefully,
Rachel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do keep articles etc. and read eventually.<br />
A combination of steaming (in my case the less expensive steamer, not the<br />
500$ plus dry steamer) , and td eaton  water based spray seems good. I&#8217;ve covered mattresses with plastic, iron blankets often, also use diatomaceous earth powder , murphy&#8217;s soap, and alcohol. Every so often i see one so i know they are around but this situation cannot be totally resolved until necessary<br />
work is done patching, painting,  the apartment .<br />
I will approach the landlord a second time.<br />
Also, what do you think of the new freezing procedures &#8211;on TV a computer<br />
is shown being sprayed. A combination of their bb detecting dog and  their technology, and a 3 month guarantee is $1200?<br />
Renee , thank you &#8211;your advice is very appreciated.<br />
Gratefully,<br />
Rachel</p>
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		<title>By: Renee Corea</title>
		<link>http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2009/01/18/permanent-prophylactic-measures-city-of-plastic-bags/comment-page-1/#comment-41214</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee Corea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck to you, Christine.  Consider a dry vapor steamer in addition to vacuuming.  And be careful when you are decluttering.  It&#039;s possible to move bed bugs around if you are not careful wrapping things in the room where they are found before removal.  Best wishes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck to you, Christine.  Consider a dry vapor steamer in addition to vacuuming.  And be careful when you are decluttering.  It&#8217;s possible to move bed bugs around if you are not careful wrapping things in the room where they are found before removal.  Best wishes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;ve heard about how hard it is to get rid of BB. And getting professionals to help is the best option there is, I wish I can call a professional to solve this problem too, but my mom doesn&#039;t want to tell anyone, it makes me worried because I&#039;ve read about how fast and easily they spread which really stresses me out =( I really hope that self-treatment will work, but very less likely it doesn&#039;t, It may make the problem worst, but because of my mom&#039;s stubbornness, I guess trying to do something on our own is better than just leaving this issue alone? I plan to vacuum everything before I start de-cluttering I hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve heard about how hard it is to get rid of BB. And getting professionals to help is the best option there is, I wish I can call a professional to solve this problem too, but my mom doesn&#8217;t want to tell anyone, it makes me worried because I&#8217;ve read about how fast and easily they spread which really stresses me out =( I really hope that self-treatment will work, but very less likely it doesn&#8217;t, It may make the problem worst, but because of my mom&#8217;s stubbornness, I guess trying to do something on our own is better than just leaving this issue alone? I plan to vacuum everything before I start de-cluttering I hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Renee Corea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee Corea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christine,

I am not Jane but I&#039;m not sure if Jane is still following the comments here.  I suggest you read some of the materials in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/resources/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;resources page&lt;/a&gt; that may help in your treatment.    Rutgers published a basic guide to self-treatment a while ago.  You can download it &lt;a href=&quot;http://njaes.rutgers.edu/pubs/publication.asp?pid=FS1098&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  It may help, but you still probably should do a lot of reading to educate yourself about all the important considerations.

Personally I think that you are unlikely to solve your problem with an over-the-counter spray product, but perhaps you have already realized this and moved on to other plans.  Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christine,</p>
<p>I am not Jane but I&#8217;m not sure if Jane is still following the comments here.  I suggest you read some of the materials in the <a href="http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/resources/" rel="nofollow">resources page</a> that may help in your treatment.    Rutgers published a basic guide to self-treatment a while ago.  You can download it <a href="http://njaes.rutgers.edu/pubs/publication.asp?pid=FS1098" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  It may help, but you still probably should do a lot of reading to educate yourself about all the important considerations.</p>
<p>Personally I think that you are unlikely to solve your problem with an over-the-counter spray product, but perhaps you have already realized this and moved on to other plans.  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jane! I also discovered BBs in my apartment. Same as you I have decades of possession and this place is very small, living with 5 family member in this apartment. Same as you, I ordered J.T Eaton kills bedbugs. Can you share your experience with me? For example like how you sprayed it and if there&#039;s any precautions you have to take before you start the process of the treatment? Unfortunately I live in a apartment house owned by my family, and my mom doesn&#039;t want others to find out (those who live in the same house). So I&#039;m planning to resort to self-treatment with J.T eaton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jane! I also discovered BBs in my apartment. Same as you I have decades of possession and this place is very small, living with 5 family member in this apartment. Same as you, I ordered J.T Eaton kills bedbugs. Can you share your experience with me? For example like how you sprayed it and if there&#8217;s any precautions you have to take before you start the process of the treatment? Unfortunately I live in a apartment house owned by my family, and my mom doesn&#8217;t want others to find out (those who live in the same house). So I&#8217;m planning to resort to self-treatment with J.T eaton.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. It&#039;s a big deal because the whole room requires work---
the floor, walls, shutters are  in very bad condition,. 
Also, I  got the exterminator to visit who said he would discuss it with the management and proceed if they gave him the go ahead , guess they didn&#039;t because of expense.
 So very difficult to approach housing, management ,rent etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. It&#8217;s a big deal because the whole room requires work&#8212;<br />
the floor, walls, shutters are  in very bad condition,.<br />
Also, I  got the exterminator to visit who said he would discuss it with the management and proceed if they gave him the go ahead , guess they didn&#8217;t because of expense.<br />
 So very difficult to approach housing, management ,rent etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee Corea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee Corea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I wrote a note about the published dry ice trap research &lt;a href=&quot;http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2009/08/10/baited-pitfall-traps-for-bed-bugs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;; the research article is a free download.

Bed bugs may be present even if you do not see them.   Your DIY application of pesticides may or may not work in the end; it all depends on where and how you are applying things.  I think a monitor or trap would be a good idea, but I also encourage you to report the infestation to your landlord and request professional pest control service.  You have been trying on your own for a good while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I wrote a note about the published dry ice trap research <a href="http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2009/08/10/baited-pitfall-traps-for-bed-bugs/" rel="nofollow">here</a>; the research article is a free download.</p>
<p>Bed bugs may be present even if you do not see them.   Your DIY application of pesticides may or may not work in the end; it all depends on where and how you are applying things.  I think a monitor or trap would be a good idea, but I also encourage you to report the infestation to your landlord and request professional pest control service.  You have been trying on your own for a good while.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The JT Eaton seems to continue working. I did see 2 bugs over the last few weeks. but, on the bright side, when crushed each appeared dryer
with no blood. Has anyone else used JT Eaton 2 successfully. The hardware store claimed no one returned disappointed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The JT Eaton seems to continue working. I did see 2 bugs over the last few weeks. but, on the bright side, when crushed each appeared dryer<br />
with no blood. Has anyone else used JT Eaton 2 successfully. The hardware store claimed no one returned disappointed!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have since discovered JT Eaton kills Bedbugs 2-- keeps killing bugs
for up to 16 weeks and i have not seen a bug for a  3 weeks and I haven&#039;t seen bites. Have you heard of this ? Today I read on the internet about a homemade bedbug detector using dry ice emitting CO2 to attract and double sided tape to capture.
To say the least this has ruined my self esteem. I&#039;m afraid to go anywhere in the event that I&#039;m bringing a hitchhiker. I don&#039;t put my coat or belongings near others. The situation is complex because my apartment is so old and beaten up, not to mention lived in  with decades  of possessions and some very snobbish neighbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have since discovered JT Eaton kills Bedbugs 2&#8211; keeps killing bugs<br />
for up to 16 weeks and i have not seen a bug for a  3 weeks and I haven&#8217;t seen bites. Have you heard of this ? Today I read on the internet about a homemade bedbug detector using dry ice emitting CO2 to attract and double sided tape to capture.<br />
To say the least this has ruined my self esteem. I&#8217;m afraid to go anywhere in the event that I&#8217;m bringing a hitchhiker. I don&#8217;t put my coat or belongings near others. The situation is complex because my apartment is so old and beaten up, not to mention lived in  with decades  of possessions and some very snobbish neighbors.</p>
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