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	<title>Comments on: The active spread of bed bugs in buildings: the stakes for cities</title>
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		<title>By: suzanne c curran</title>
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		<dc:creator>suzanne c curran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yesterday i came home and was told by another tenant that there where bedbugs in an apt today i asked the property manager and she hesatnly gaveme papers  and tttold me there were bed bugs in an apt i asked where no answer she said i was safe and the building would be inspectd next month do these bug get in walls and how can i be sure they arnt carried on shoes i live across from the mail box sincerly suzanne curran  at heritage pointe apts staatsburg 12580</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yesterday i came home and was told by another tenant that there where bedbugs in an apt today i asked the property manager and she hesatnly gaveme papers  and tttold me there were bed bugs in an apt i asked where no answer she said i was safe and the building would be inspectd next month do these bug get in walls and how can i be sure they arnt carried on shoes i live across from the mail box sincerly suzanne curran  at heritage pointe apts staatsburg 12580</p>
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		<title>By: sam bryks</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam bryks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understand John, Newyorkvsbedbugs was not intended as a site for recommendations, but there are quite a few experts who come here for the excellent resources that Renee has posted, so I&#039;ll try to offer you a few tips..

1. two months is FAR too long between treatments.. Should have been about 2 weeks .. 3 at the most.. in that two months any eggs that hatched or survivors have gone on to maturity and are now reproducing.. The firm who did the job if they recommended two months between treatments, THEY GOOFED.. 
2. Get climbup bed leg protectors .. also called interceptors.. will keep some off the bed and give you and idea of how bad it is..
3. if you have a vacuum cleaner,, vacuum the bed thoroughly, mattress at seams, box spring at seams and corners,, and vacuum bedframe, sofa, etc..
at edges of carpets,, and whereever you see them.. behidn pictures, inside drawers, bottom of dresser.. etc..
4. if you can get a steam cleaner. an inexpensive one and share with your neighbour.. a big help....   not a handheld, but a canister type..
5. get your unit ready and have a new treatment and then another in two weeks..
if you don&#039;t have yet, get a box spring encasement for sure, and a mattress encasement too.. use after the first treatment...  very important.. 

read some of the stuff here and some of the resources.. the National Healthy Homes Centre manual on current methods is very helpful. as is woodgreen&#039;s tenant manual, but not their bed bug resource manual or their long review Bed Bugs are Back....  the tenant manual is good as is the NYC one...
read those resources...
hope this helps a bit..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand John, Newyorkvsbedbugs was not intended as a site for recommendations, but there are quite a few experts who come here for the excellent resources that Renee has posted, so I&#8217;ll try to offer you a few tips..</p>
<p>1. two months is FAR too long between treatments.. Should have been about 2 weeks .. 3 at the most.. in that two months any eggs that hatched or survivors have gone on to maturity and are now reproducing.. The firm who did the job if they recommended two months between treatments, THEY GOOFED..<br />
2. Get climbup bed leg protectors .. also called interceptors.. will keep some off the bed and give you and idea of how bad it is..<br />
3. if you have a vacuum cleaner,, vacuum the bed thoroughly, mattress at seams, box spring at seams and corners,, and vacuum bedframe, sofa, etc..<br />
at edges of carpets,, and whereever you see them.. behidn pictures, inside drawers, bottom of dresser.. etc..<br />
4. if you can get a steam cleaner. an inexpensive one and share with your neighbour.. a big help&#8230;.   not a handheld, but a canister type..<br />
5. get your unit ready and have a new treatment and then another in two weeks..<br />
if you don&#8217;t have yet, get a box spring encasement for sure, and a mattress encasement too.. use after the first treatment&#8230;  very important.. </p>
<p>read some of the stuff here and some of the resources.. the National Healthy Homes Centre manual on current methods is very helpful. as is woodgreen&#8217;s tenant manual, but not their bed bug resource manual or their long review Bed Bugs are Back&#8230;.  the tenant manual is good as is the NYC one&#8230;<br />
read those resources&#8230;<br />
hope this helps a bit..</p>
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		<title>By: John Burris</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wrote above: Perhaps I should say I live in New York (Manhattan).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wrote above: Perhaps I should say I live in New York (Manhattan).</p>
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		<title>By: John Burris</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My neighbor and I had a bedbug outbreak last summer. Our lanlord was very attentive and gave us an exterminator. He had to come back two months later for repeat. He says, the bedbugs are 95% gone now. Though I have not had any bites (maybe 2) - I see their &#039;glistening shells&#039; on the carpet. I have wall to wall carpeting! Which I feel makes it doubly hard to get rid of? (Yes)

I threw all my &#039;wood&#039; furniture out, got new bed frames, covered pillows, bed, etc. Washed all clothing, bedding. But I feel I am just waiting for the next attack.

It nevers goes away..the dread. the anxiety. Everyone can relate? What is something else, I can do. I even &#039;froze&#039; shoes, pillows, blankets last winter by leaving them on fire escape over night. 

What to do when the next attack begins?

John

*I am new on here and have not read anything but this section....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My neighbor and I had a bedbug outbreak last summer. Our lanlord was very attentive and gave us an exterminator. He had to come back two months later for repeat. He says, the bedbugs are 95% gone now. Though I have not had any bites (maybe 2) &#8211; I see their &#8216;glistening shells&#8217; on the carpet. I have wall to wall carpeting! Which I feel makes it doubly hard to get rid of? (Yes)</p>
<p>I threw all my &#8216;wood&#8217; furniture out, got new bed frames, covered pillows, bed, etc. Washed all clothing, bedding. But I feel I am just waiting for the next attack.</p>
<p>It nevers goes away..the dread. the anxiety. Everyone can relate? What is something else, I can do. I even &#8216;froze&#8217; shoes, pillows, blankets last winter by leaving them on fire escape over night. </p>
<p>What to do when the next attack begins?</p>
<p>John</p>
<p>*I am new on here and have not read anything but this section&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sam bryks</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam bryks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i got the term incorrect.. It is &quot;thigmatrophic&quot; not thermatrophic..  i first heard it used by Austin Frishman about 30 years ago..  some things do stick in memory.. 
it was late after a long day, so forgive me the lapse.. 
Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got the term incorrect.. It is &#8220;thigmatrophic&#8221; not thermatrophic..  i first heard it used by Austin Frishman about 30 years ago..  some things do stick in memory..<br />
it was late after a long day, so forgive me the lapse..<br />
Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Bryks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Bryks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In view of the findings of this research, I have to rethink my views on &quot;across the hall&quot; dispersal.  It would be of interest to know how severely infested the primary units were in these cases... 45% is really a scary figure. 
   As there was a period of nearly 3.5 years from the intial infestation, I just wonder about the across the hall relatonship. The visual counts from units at which the interceptors in the hallways showed captures was quite high.. nearly 200 - . The results from equivalent of .7 1.5 man hours of inspection - a lot of work for sure!!, and the effectiveness of the interceptors remains impressive... confirming as noted by others that the best lure is a sleeping body..
   The failure of control by the pc firm is, of course, of great concern. I am sure they were trying hard knowing that the site was under scrutiny. 
    This paper certainly shows the importance of the use of interceptors as the best monitor as well as removing many of the insects from the infestation population.  A lot more work needed on the dispersal patterns. What degree of infestation results in dispersal through the door.. Do they move laterally more often than across the hall? Is it simply random or are they drawn by people entering their homes (air patterns, CO2? Are they not thermagotrophic (not sure if i got the term - ) like roaches, liking to have the comfort of physical harborage - i.e. cracks and crevice,, perhaps not, as they do travel exposed it seems to find hosts -- would be great if someone did a night vision study of their patterns of movement. 
   good paper.. scary.. but lots of things to do to get them under control..
We will get them back to oblivion in due course, but not sure how long it is going to take..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In view of the findings of this research, I have to rethink my views on &#8220;across the hall&#8221; dispersal.  It would be of interest to know how severely infested the primary units were in these cases&#8230; 45% is really a scary figure.<br />
   As there was a period of nearly 3.5 years from the intial infestation, I just wonder about the across the hall relatonship. The visual counts from units at which the interceptors in the hallways showed captures was quite high.. nearly 200 &#8211; . The results from equivalent of .7 1.5 man hours of inspection &#8211; a lot of work for sure!!, and the effectiveness of the interceptors remains impressive&#8230; confirming as noted by others that the best lure is a sleeping body..<br />
   The failure of control by the pc firm is, of course, of great concern. I am sure they were trying hard knowing that the site was under scrutiny.<br />
    This paper certainly shows the importance of the use of interceptors as the best monitor as well as removing many of the insects from the infestation population.  A lot more work needed on the dispersal patterns. What degree of infestation results in dispersal through the door.. Do they move laterally more often than across the hall? Is it simply random or are they drawn by people entering their homes (air patterns, CO2? Are they not thermagotrophic (not sure if i got the term &#8211; ) like roaches, liking to have the comfort of physical harborage &#8211; i.e. cracks and crevice,, perhaps not, as they do travel exposed it seems to find hosts &#8212; would be great if someone did a night vision study of their patterns of movement.<br />
   good paper.. scary.. but lots of things to do to get them under control..<br />
We will get them back to oblivion in due course, but not sure how long it is going to take..</p>
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